Cow revenue share discussion

Hi guys,

I am a huge fan of the cow protocol and I think a rev share via staking would be the next step that the Dao should take. Aave also considers a proposal for a rev share lately and there is the idea coming from.
The numbers cow is doing are amazing.
Short summary what the fees would generate (pls excuse me for any mistakes that could happen in my discussion. I am not an expert of the technical aspects of cow by any means)

All tokens are staked and the 100% of the revenue is split among the stakers

  • 341.900.000 tokens unlocked
  • 1.089 Eth fees generated the last 5 months
    —> 217,5 per month —> 2613 Eth per year
    —> 7.840.000 $ per year (3.000$ per Eth)

Tokens / revenue = 0.0229 $ cow/year

So the apy would be north of 10% when cow tokens is at .2

You could also add the revenue of the mev blocker which is 2 eth per day. With that the apy would be close to 15% with all tokens staked.

I personally think that a rev share would bring a true utility to the token and would increase the price significantly. Many new people which use cow swap and know the numbers would buy the token and stake it. With that also more ppl would get their eyes on cowswap which also would get the volume higher.

Also all following developments (fees on new layer2s and evm chains) which increase the volume and the apy.

I think this is a smarter step then spending millions for a cex listing, when the token has no usecase.

Imo this should be the next step asap, cuz nobody knows how long this bullrun will take and this also would cow survive a bear market.

The one difficult point is the legal process of the rev share model, but I guess this shouldn’t be an issue if aave is planning to do this and the world gets crypto friendlier every day :slight_smile:

What is your opinion on that?
What are pros and cons that I didn’t mentioned?

Ty for your time and if I made a mistake or didn’t knew something just tell me.

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I think this is a good idea, and something that certainly should be considered for the $COW roadmap. More-immediately, though, we need to understand how operational costs are balanced against revenue. The solver competition is quite costly to maintain, though I expect there are costs to be saved there. And support and development expenses are more likely to increase than decrease in the mid-term. But IMO the DAO should be reporting on all of these openly.

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Yeah, we need definitely need to know what amount of money the dao needs to run confidently.

But I guess the expenses like solvers, developing etc. could also be paid via rev share.
I know the dao itself hold a large amount of cow tokens, and with that staked, I think roughly 30-50% of the whole revenue can be used for the above mentioned things.

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And if the dao itself doesn’t hold enough tokens, but u could say like 20% of the revenue still goes to the dao itself. I dunno the exact numbers, but the numbers cow are doing are insane. This is for sure a point to discuss and where we need more informations.

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I think the rev share model is a nice suggestion, however I’m sceptical if it adds any fundamental value to the DAO.

Already today, all revenue is captured by token holders as the entire treasury is subject to COW governance. Building a staking product would create additional friction imo (not all token holders will stake) and is structurally very similar to paying a dividend. Note that CoW DAO is already buying back CoW from the market using part of its revenue so the effect on value creation should be comparable (cf. Dividend vs. Buyback: What's the Difference?).

I do agree though that doing something actively with your tokens (putting them somewhere to see number go up) might have a positive effect on perceived token utility.

Traditionally, I think early state tech projects tend to be careful about paying dividends and rather build a war chest and re-invest their revenue into growth. I share @marshy’s concerns about being mindful of the ongoing expenses the development and competition incur. We are still at the very beginning of what this DAO can do and while it’s great that we are able to demonstrate the value the CoW product suite is adding, we should be thinking primarily about growing the pie not splitting it up.

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Hi thank you for your response, i do agree with you that the buybacks are a very good way, but I think it ain’t communicated even for me as a holder well. People who do see cow from the outside, don’t rlly know about the buybacks and only see the bad looking tokenomics and are feared of the inflation.

I dunno how much of the revenue goes into the buybacks but, I would say that buybacks should be as high as possible to fight the inflation.

But from the outside it looks better to have a usecase for the token. I believe it would be much better if a major part of the circ. Supply is staked and people won’t sell the tokens cause of the amazing apy. This opens the way for new investors cuz they are not that scared of the tokenomics.

This would automatically bring more attention and more volume to cow, and building is still funded cuz cowdao would have a major piece of the rev share. With that all future developments would leverage the rev share.

The current buybacks are great but I think rev share is even better to get more people on board. It would be a win win situation in my opinion.

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Aave proposal for revenue share looking like it’s gonna be accepted :eyes:

https://snapshot.org/#/aave.eth/proposal/0x7f4941aff652cf2a41f47bc58220a952e4894fdc16e27a975045faa9c458da19

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Your proposal for implementing a revenue-sharing model via staking for the Cow Protocol is intriguing. Here’s a brief summary of the potential financial impact and key considerations:

Summary of Financial Impact:

  • Token Details: 341,900,000 tokens unlocked.
  • Fees Generated: 1.089 ETH over the last 5 months.
    • Monthly Fees: 217.5 ETH.
    • Annual Fees: 2,613 ETH (approximately $7.84 million, assuming $3,000 per ETH).
  • Revenue Per Token: $0.0229 per Cow token per year.
  • APY Estimate: Over 10% if Cow tokens are priced at $0.20.
  • Including MEV Blocker Revenue: Adds 2 ETH per day, boosting APY to nearly 15%.

Pros:

  1. Increased Token Utility: Revenue sharing provides direct benefits to stakers, enhancing the token’s use case and appeal.
  2. Attraction for Investors: A higher APY could attract more investors and users to the Cow Protocol, increasing token demand and price.
  3. Enhanced Visibility: Greater interest in staking could drive more attention to CowSwap, potentially increasing its trading volume and overall platform activity.
  4. Sustainable Growth: Revenue sharing could make the token more resilient to market fluctuations, supporting its value during bear markets.

Cons:

  1. Legal and Regulatory Challenges: Implementing a revenue-sharing model might involve complex legal considerations. Ensuring compliance with regulations is crucial.
  2. Technical and Operational Costs: Managing the revenue distribution mechanism could incur additional costs and require technical adjustments.
  3. Market Volatility: APY projections are based on current revenue and token price, which can fluctuate. High APYs might attract short-term speculators rather than long-term holders.

Considerations:

  • Comparative Analysis: While a revenue-sharing model can enhance utility, it’s important to compare it with other potential use cases or investments, such as CEX listings, which might also offer significant benefits.
  • Long-Term Impact: Evaluate how sustainable the revenue streams are and how they might evolve with future developments and market conditions.

Overall, a revenue-sharing model could be a smart move to enhance token utility and attract investors, provided that legal and operational challenges are addressed effectively.

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Hi CowSwap Community,

After reflecting on the initial feedback and further brainstorming, I had the idea to combine a revenue-sharing mechanism with the already occurring buybacks to enhance the $COW token utility.

Summary of the Proposal

The core idea is to allow stakers to earn revenue via buybacks, which would compound their holdings over time. Nearly all the protocol’s revenue (except what is needed to maintain and develop the protocol) would go towards these buybacks, providing direct value to stakers and enhancing the token’s overall demand.

How It Works

  1. Revenue Sharing with Buybacks:
    Stakers receive their share of the protocol’s revenue not directly as ETH or stablecoins, but through buybacks of $COW tokens. This means that the protocol would automatically use the revenue to purchase $COW on the market and credit stakers with these additional tokens, effectively increasing their staked amount over time.
    This compounding effect means that each staker would earn a growing portion of revenue as their $COW holdings increase month over month.

  2. DAO Revenue & Buybacks for Development:
    Since the DAO itself holds a significant amount of $COW tokens, it can also participate in the buybacks. This would allow the DAO to use its portion of the revenue to strengthen its holdings and ensure sufficient funding for future developments. By reinvesting in $COW through buybacks, the DAO can continuously support the protocol’s growth and sustainability.

  3. Revenue from New Integrations and Chains:
    As CowSwap expands its integrations into new chains or turns on fees in additional EVM or layer-2 chains, these developments would naturally benefit stakers. All new revenue streams would be automatically incorporated into the buyback mechanism, providing even greater rewards for stakers and increasing the value of the protocol. This ensures that every development or expansion CowSwap undertakes benefits both the DAO and the stakers, aligning everyone’s interests.

  4. Allocation of Revenue for Development:
    To ensure the sustainability and continued growth of CowSwap, a small percentage of the revenue would be retained by the DAO to fund ongoing development, maintenance, and future initiatives. This allocation would ensure that all operational costs are met while still prioritizing the vast majority of revenue for stakers.

Benefits of This Approach

Enhanced Utility and Demand:
The combination of staking rewards and buybacks gives $COW a strong utility, encouraging holders to stake rather than sell. As more investors see this mechanism in action, it can increase confidence in holding and staking $COW, leading to higher demand.

Compounding Returns for Stakers:
By receiving buybacks directly into their staked balance, stakers effectively see a compounding of their holdings, which increases their revenue share over time.

Reduced Selling Pressure:
With a significant portion of the circulating supply staked and increasing rewards, there would likely be less incentive for holders to sell their tokens.

Funding DAO Development:
The DAO’s ability to use its share of the revenue for buybacks helps secure consistent funding for ongoing development and further aligns the protocol’s success with the community’s interests.

Incentivized Future Growth:
Every expansion into new chains or increased fee generation from new initiatives automatically benefits stakers and increases the protocol’s revenue, creating a virtuous cycle of growth.

Funding the Implementation

To implement this combined staking and buyback mechanism, some initial funding will be required. This would involve developing smart contracts to automate the buybacks and distribute additional $COW to stakers efficiently and securely. The cost would also cover auditing the new smart contracts to ensure the system is robust and aligned with CowSwap’s existing architecture.

Addressing Tokenomics Concerns

Currently, the uncertainty around the long-term utility of $COW and whether a revenue-sharing mechanism will be implemented may be discouraging to new investors. By introducing this combined approach, we can provide clear utility for the token, help stabilize the price, and demonstrate a sustainable path forward. This would address concerns around token inflation and give investors greater confidence in the protocol’s future.

Conclusion & Next Steps

This combined mechanism of revenue sharing and buybacks can provide a more transparent and compelling use case for the $COW token, while simultaneously funding the protocol’s ongoing development. I believe this approach would strengthen the community’s confidence and attract new investors, ultimately increasing $COW’s demand and trading volume.

I’d love to hear your thoughts on this proposal and any additional considerations I might have missed. Thank you for taking the time to engage in this discussion!

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When you stake COW, you’re not just holding; you’re growing your stake through buybacks, reducing the urge to sell and potentially upping demand. Your rewards compound, reinvesting into more COW for you.

The DAO uses revenue for development but still shares profits, aligning everyone’s interests for growth. This model attracts investors with its promise of value rise and combats token inflation through buybacks.

Every new revenue stream benefits stakers, encouraging support for expansion. It’s about creating sustainable growth for COW, where every stakeholder benefits.

I’m on board with this proposal.

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Thank you for the positive feedback! I’m glad to see the potential for long-term growth and increased token demand resonates with you. I’m also excited to hear what the broader community and the CowSwap team think of this proposal, and I look forward to any additional ideas or insights they might have. Your support is encouraging as we move forward in this direction.

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